Sun's "Project Peter" - a plan to migrate Oracle users to MySQL

Distributed earlier on Wikileaks, this is reportedly is an internal Sun document, discussing a strategy to migrate Oracle users to MySQL.

"Project Peter is an internal effort to assist Sun / MySQL customers in migrating from Oracle to MySQL by offering them a comprehensive solution that consists of Professional Services, Best Practices, and a set of approved third party migration tools and utilities that will enable them to move to MySQL in a way that is as easy as possible."

For more on this issue, you can see our letter to the European Commission on the Oracle acquisition of MySQ.

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... I don't think, that this will work! There are too much differences between the two systems! But I will follow this! Greetz from Germany,
Thomas Sabo

What authority has "Project Peter"?

What evidence do you have that this is actually Sun's policy and strategy and not just a proposal from an individual? In large corporations, the normal way to communicate ideas is through presentations like this and the fact it exists proves nothing.

Robin Schumacher

Decide for yourself how significant Robin Schumacher is. When he wrote the Project Peter slides, he was Director Product Management at Sun/MySQL.

See also this June 13, 2006 web page: A Practical Guide to Migrating From Oracle to MySQL

In July 11, 2009, he wrote this blog entry.

Great opportunity for Oracle DBAs

I’m real excited about our upcoming seminars for Oracle DBAs who want to learn MySQL. Having used Oracle myself for many years, I know full well there are lots of cases where Oracle and MySQL are a great combination to have in a side-by-side manner. There are things you can do with Oracle that you can’t do with MySQL and (believe it or not…) there are things you can do with MySQL that you can’t do with Oracle. Plus we have lots of folks who offload Oracle application data to MySQL data marts/warehouses or other systems. This being the case, it’s not surprising that even the IOUG (International Oracle Users Group) admit that now 1/3 of Oracle shops use MySQL.

Here are a few more of his blog entries.

Or this blog he wrote, called "From Oracle to MySQL."

James Love, Director, KEI

So no actual prooof then

Seems he doesn't work at Sun any more though:

And here he is listed as "Senior Manager:

Do you actually have any hard proof that this is Sun strategy? His is not a decision-maker grade at Sun and all you have is proof he had the idea, not that the people he worked for accepted it. If he was a VP or something I'd be more persuaded, but you don't seem to have anything concrete on which to base your complaint. Which, given it's serious consequences, doesn't seem very responsible of you.

No actual proof of what?

The memo certainly is consistent with other actions supported by senior management of Sun before the Merger. Sun was distributing a white paper about Oracle to MySQL migration on its web site, and providing seminars and distance education tools on how to migrate users, and sending the author around to talk about this. All of this is pretty normal for a firm that has a product or service (MySQL) they want people to use.

He was Sun's "Director of Product Management, MySQL," not an intern.

Once a company agrees to be acquired by Oracle, they may indeed change their public views on how much they want to migrate customers from Oracle to MySQL, given that this would cost Oracle a lot of money. What they were saying before the merger is not irrelevant just because they change their story now.

There is an abundance of evidence that Sun was actively trying to migrate Oracle users to MySQL. The memo is just one of several things out there, many of which are still on the Sun web site. You can argue about how successful this was. But there have been some notable defections from Oracle to MySQL, that's a fact. I think more important is where the new development for databases is taking place. Some surveys show MySQL with very large mind share for new projects, particularly in newer markets.

James Love, Director, KEI

It was one of the reasons for the Sun buyout of MySQL

Sun had definite goals for MySQL, and there were several internal company presentations from top people, including Jonathan Schwartz, on the strategy of targeting Oracle customers. The main thrust was always that MySQL AB never had the muscle to get into the Fortune 500 customers, while Sun could open the doors for MySQL sales into traditional Oracle customers.

Even before that, MySQL's key marketing tool was their TCO tool, and the strategy that the Platinum Unlimited license was set at the price of a Single CPU Oracle license. It was done on purpose, and was very effective. The TCO tool was pulled down when Oracle bought Sun, and was only reinstated once all references to Oracle pricing were removed.

An ex-MySQL-ex-Sun-ex-Oracle marketing team member.